Descendants of JOHN Gartside (1756 - 1800) and HANNAH Lees (1762 - 1846)

Part 4

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  Spelling of 'Gartside' standardised with letter 't'
My direct line ancestors with FORENAME in bold capitals
Lucy Gartside
daughter of
BEN Gartside
&
BETTY Scholefield

Lucy Gartside was born in Saddleworth, Yorkshire,11 and was baptised 1819 May 23 in Saddleworth, Yorkshire,.

General Notes: chr. St Chad, Saddleworth
On 1881 census states born in Delph

I can't find any other 'Lucys' in the census to whom this might refer so assuming it is a probability but not a certainty
from 'Family Search':
name: Edwin Gartside
gender: Male
birth date 1841
age at death 1yr
burial date: 28 Jun 1842
burial place: Oldham, Lancashire, England
mother's name: Lucy Gartside

Noted events in her life were:

1841 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Soho St. Oldham Above Town, Soho St.
BEN age 55, widowed, a clothier. 'No' for not born in Lancashire.
Mary age 26; Lucy 20, a frame tenter; Frances 15, a frame tenter; Ben, 13, a piecer; All recorded 'No' for born in Lancashire.
Alfred 10; Hannah 8; Sarah Ann 5; Frederick 3; John Wright 1; all recorded 'Yes' to born in Lancashire.
Missing are : JOHN, Edwin, Betty Lees, Charles and BETTY.

1851 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh's Buildings. Oldham above Town
Head is James Scholes, age 31, b. Oldham, an iron spindle maker (operatiove)
Wife Lucy , 31, 'at home'.
Sons: John age 7 ( (so this might be Lucy's stepson). and Jacob age 7 months, both born Oldham.

1861 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Jackson St.
James is head, age 42, from Ashton-u-Lyne, 'a mechanic spindle forger'.
Wife Lucy age 42.
Children:
Jacob Scholes 11, b. Oldham
Samuel Scholes 6, b. Oldham
Alice 4 b. Oldham
John (son/stepson) is not with them.
Living next door to Lucy's sister Frances and her family

1871 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 3.
James is head, 52, b. Oldham; a labourer in iron words.
Wife Lucy 52; b. Saddleworth
Children: Jacob 20, spindle turner; Samuel, 16, cotton operative; Alice 13;
Lucy's sister, Frances, is in the next St with her family.

1881 census: :
Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 14.
James is head, age 62, labourer in iron works
Wife Lucy, 62,
Children: Alice, 23 cotton weaver (unemployed);
Jacob 30, spindle turner (unemployed);
Jacob's wife, Hannah, 30, cotton weaver;
Children of Jacob & Hannah: Eda 8; Alice 6; Fred 9 months.

Lucy's nephew, John E. Lord and family on same page.

1891 census:
: Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 14. (4 rooms)
Lucy is widowed, 72 (born Delph) and head,
Daughter Alice is single, 34 and a laundress.
Boarders:
Abraham Lord, married, 65 and a general labourer. (1st wife Frances was Lucy's sister)
Betty Lord, Abraham's wife, is 55 and a laundress.

Note:
(Living at 18 Marsh street is a Garside family. This appears to ba a coincidence as they are of no close connection. Mary Ann (24) is living with her young family. Husband Thomas is in the Royal Manchester Eye Hospital. Although originally from Oldham I have checked him back to his family in Blackpool and his marriage and his father's, James', origins are not local.)

Lucy married James Scholes 1845 Sep 1 in Prestwich, Lancashire.12 James was born in 1818 in Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire,.
They had three children: Jacob, Samuel and Alice.

 

Jacob Scholes
son of
Lucy Gartside
&
James Scholes

Jacob Scholes was born in 1850 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

General Notes: born in Oldham

Noted events in his life were:

1851 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh's Buildings. Marsh's Buildings, Waterhead Mill, Oldham above Town
Head is James Scholes, age 31, b. Oldham, an iron spindle maker (operatiove)
Wife Lucy , 31, 'at home'.
Sons: John age 7 ( (so this might be Lucy's stepson). and Jacob age 7 months, both born Oldham.

1861 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Jackson St. Jackson St., Waterhead Mill
James is head, age 42, from Ashton-u-Lyne, 'a mechanic spindle forger'.
Wife Lucy age 42.
Children:
Jacob Scholes 11, b. Oldham
Samuel Scholes 6, b. Oldham
Alice 4 b. Oldham

John (son/stepson) is not with them.
Living next door to Lucy's sister Frances and her family

1871 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 3. 3, Marsh St., Waterhead Mill
James is head, 52, b. Oldham; a labourer in iron words.
Wife Lucy 52; b. Saddleworth
Children: Jacob 20, spindle turner; Samuel, 16, cotton operative; Alice 13;

1881 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 14. 14, Marsh St., Waterhead Mill
James is head, age 62, labourer in iron works
Wife Lucy, 62,
Children: Alice, 23 cotton weaver (unemployed);
Jacob 30, spindle turner (unemployed);
Jacob's wife, Hannah, 30, cotton weaver;
Children of Jacob & Hannah: Eda 8; Alice 6; Fred 9 months.

Lucy's nephew, John E. Lord and family on same page.

1891 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. , Oldham , ecc dist St James. 4 rooms
Jacob Scholes, 40, plate moulder, iron.
Wife Hannah age 40
Children: Eda, 18, cotton weaver; Alice 16, cotton weaver; Fred 12; Herbert 7; James 5; Harold 3.

Same Parish as his mother, Lucy.

Interestingly, they are living next door to James Garside (age 42 born in Saddleworth) and his wife Mary Ann (age 42 born in Oldham). I don't know if this is significant or not.

1901 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. , ecc dist St James (next to Marsh St. on census return) 4 rooms
Jacob (wrongly transcribed as 'Joseph'), 50, labourer in iron foundry.
wife Hannah age 50.
children: Eda 28, cotton velvet weaver; Alice, 26, cotton velver weaver; Fred 20, iron moulder's apprentice; Herbert 17 coremaker (textiles); Harold 13, bookmaker's assistant; Ernest 9.

Jacob married Hannah Harrison 1873 jul/sep in Manchester, Lancashire. Hannah was born in 1850 in Oldham, Lancashire,.
They had seven children: Eda, Alice, Fred, Herbert, James, Harold and Ernest.

 

Eda Scholes
daughter of
Jacob Scholes
&
Hannah Harrison

Eda Scholes was born in 1872 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in her life were:

1881 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 14.
James is head, age 62, labourer in iron works
Wife Lucy, 62,
Children: Alice, 23 cotton weaver (unemployed);
Jacob 30, spindle turner (unemployed);
Jacob's wife, Hannah, 30, cotton weaver;
Children of Jacob & Hannah: Eda 8; Alice 6; Fred 9 months.

Lucy's nephew, John E. Lord and family on same page.

1891 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. , ecc dist St James. 4 rooms
Jacob Scholes, 40, plate moulder, iron.
Wife Hannah age 40
Children: Eda, 18, cotton weaver; Alice 16, cotton weaver; Fred 12; Herbert 7; James 5; Harold 3.

1901 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. , ecc dist St James (next to Marsh St. on census return) 4 rooms
Jacob (wrongly transcribed as 'Joseph'), 50, labourer in iron foundry.
wife Hannah age 50.
children: Eda 28, cotton velvet weaver; Alice, 26, cotton velver weaver; Fred 20, iron moulder's apprentice; Herbert 17 coremaker (textiles); Harold 13, bookmaker's assistant; Ernest 9.

 

Alice Scholes
daughter of
Jacob Scholes
&
Hannah Harrison

Alice Scholes was born in 1874 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in her life were:

1881 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 14.
James is head, age 62, labourer in iron works
Wife Lucy, 62,
Children: Alice, 23 cotton weaver (unemployed);
Jacob 30, spindle turner (unemployed);
Jacob's wife, Hannah, 30, cotton weaver;
Children of Jacob & Hannah: Eda 8; Alice 6; Fred 9 months.

Lucy's nephew, John E. Lord and family on same page.

1891 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. , Oldham , ecc dist St James. 4 rooms
Jacob Scholes, 40, plate moulder, iron.
Wife Hannah age 40
Children: Eda, 18, cotton weaver; Alice 16, cotton weaver; Fred 12; Herbert 7; James 5; Harold 3.

1901 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. , ecc dist St James (next to Marsh St. on census return) 4 rooms
Jacob (wrongly transcribed as 'Joseph'), 50, labourer in iron foundry.
wife Hannah age 50.
children: Eda 28, cotton velvet weaver; Alice, 26, cotton velver weaver; Fred 20, iron moulder's apprentice; Herbert 17 coremaker (textiles); Harold 13, bookmaker's assistant; Ernest 9.

 

Fred Scholes
son of
Jacob Scholes
&
Hannah Harrison

Fred Scholes was born in 1880 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in his life were:

1881 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill. 14, Marsh St., Waterhead Mill
James is head, age 62, labourer in iron works
Wife Lucy, 62,
Children: Alice, 23 cotton weaver (unemployed);
Jacob 30, spindle turner (unemployed);
Jacob's wife, Hannah, 30, cotton weaver;
Children of Jacob & Hannah: Eda 8; Alice 6; Fred 9 months.

Lucy's nephew, John E. Lord and family on same page.

1891 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80 Heap St., Oldham , ecc dist St James. 4 rooms
Jacob Scholes, 40, plate moulder, iron.
Wife Hannah age 40
Children: Eda, 18, cotton weaver; Alice 16, cotton weaver; Fred 12; Herbert 7; James 5; Harold 3.

1901 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, . 80, Heap St, Waterhead, ecc dist St James (next to Marsh St. on census return) 4 rooms
Jacob (wrongly transcribed as 'Joseph'), 50, labourer in iron foundry.
wife Hannah age 50.
children: Eda 28, cotton velvet weaver; Alice, 26, cotton velver weaver; Fred 20, iron moulder's apprentice; Herbert 17 coremaker (textiles); Harold 13, bookmaker's assistant; Ernest 9.

 

Herbert Scholes
son of
Jacob Scholes
&
Hannah Harrison

Herbert Scholes was born in 1883 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in his life were:

1891 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. , ecc dist St James. 4 rooms
Jacob Scholes, 40, plate moulder, iron.
Wife Hannah age 40
Children: Eda, 18, cotton weaver; Alice 16, cotton weaver; Fred 12; Herbert 7; James 5; Harold 3.

1901 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill. 80, Heap St, Waterhead, ecc dist St James (next to Marsh St. on census return) 4 rooms
Jacob (wrongly transcribed as 'Joseph'), 50, labourer in iron foundry.
wife Hannah age 50.
children: Eda 28, cotton velvet weaver; Alice, 26, cotton velver weaver; Fred 20, iron moulder's apprentice; Herbert 17 coremaker (textiles); Harold 13, bookmaker's assistant; Ernest 9

 

James Scholes
son of
Jacob Scholes
&
Hannah Harrison

James Scholes was born in 1885 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in his life were:

1891 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. 80 Heap St., Oldham , ecc dist St James. 4 rooms
Jacob Scholes, 40, plate moulder, iron.
Wife Hannah age 40
Children: Eda, 18, cotton weaver; Alice 16, cotton weaver; Fred 12; Herbert 7; James 5; Harold 3.

 

Harold Scholes
son of
Jacob Scholes
&
Hannah Harrison

Harold Scholes was born in 1887 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in his life were:

1891 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. ecc dist St James. 4 rooms
Jacob Scholes, 40, plate moulder, iron.
Wife Hannah age 40
Children: Eda, 18, cotton weaver; Alice 16, cotton weaver; Fred 12; Herbert 7; James 5; Harold 3.

1901 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. ecc dist St James (next to Marsh St. on census return) 4 rooms
Jacob (wrongly transcribed as 'Joseph'), 50, labourer in iron foundry.
wife Hannah age 50.
children: Eda 28, cotton velvet weaver; Alice, 26, cotton velver weaver; Fred 20, iron moulder's apprentice; Herbert 17 coremaker (textiles); Harold 13, bookmaker's assistant; Ernest 9.

 

Ernest Scholes
son of
Jacob Scholes
&
Hannah Harrison

Ernest Scholes was born in 1891 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in his life were:

1901 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead, Heap St, 80. ecc dist St James (next to Marsh St. on census return) 4 rooms
Jacob (wrongly transcribed as 'Joseph'), 50, labourer in iron foundry.
wife Hannah age 50.
children: Eda 28, cotton velvet weaver; Alice, 26, cotton velver weaver; Fred 20, iron moulder's apprentice; Herbert 17 coremaker (textiles); Harold 13, bookmaker's assistant; Ernest 9

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Samuel Scholes
son of
Lucy Gartside
&
James Scholes

Samuel Scholes was born in 1854 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in his life were:

1861 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Jackson St. Jackson St., Waterhead Mill
James is head, age 42, from Ashton-u-Lyne, 'a mechanic spindle forger'.
Wife Lucy age 42.
Children:
Jacob Scholes 11, b. Oldham
Samuel Scholes 6, b. Oldham
Alice 4 b. Oldham

John (son/stepson) is not with them.
Living next door to Lucy's sister Frances and her family

1871 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 3. 3, Marsh St., Waterhead Mill
James is head, 52, b. Oldham; a labourer in iron words.
Wife Lucy 52; b. Saddleworth
Children: Jacob 20, spindle turner; Samuel, 16, cotton operative; Alice 13;

 

Alice Scholes
daughter of
Lucy Gartside
&
James Scholes

Alice Scholes was born in 1856 in Oldham, Lancashire,.

Noted events in her life were:

1861 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Jackson St. Jackson St., Waterhead Mill
James is head, age 42, from Ashton-u-Lyne, 'a mechanic spindle forger'.
Wife Lucy age 42.
Children:
Jacob Scholes 11, b. Oldham
Samuel Scholes 6, b. Oldham
Alice 4 b. Oldham

John (son/stepson) is not with them.
Living next door to Lucy's sister Frances and her family

1871 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 3. 3, Marsh St., Waterhead Mill
James is head, 52, b. Oldham; a labourer in iron words.
Wife Lucy 52; b. Saddleworth
Children: Jacob 20, spindle turner; Samuel, 16, cotton operative; Alice 13;

1881 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 14.
James is head, age 62, labourer in iron works
Wife Lucy, 62,
Children: Alice, 23 cotton weaver (unemployed);
Jacob 30, spindle turner (unemployed);
Jacob's wife, Hannah, 30, cotton weaver;
Children of Jacob & Hannah: Eda 8; Alice 6; Fred 9 months.

Lucy's nephew, John E. Lord and family on same page.

1891 census: : Oldham, Lancashire, Waterhead Mill, Marsh St, 14. 14, Marsh St., Oldham (4 rooms)
Lucy is widowed, 72 (born Delph) and head,
Daughter Alice is single, 34 and a laundress.
Boarders:
Abraham Lord, married, 65 and a general labourer. (1st wife FRances was Lucy's sister)
Betty Lord, Abraham's wife, is 55 and a laundress.

 

Edwin Gartside
son of
Lucy Gartside
&
xx

Edwin Gartside born 1841 (ref 'Family Search' burial record)

burial date: 28 Jun 1842
burial place: Oldham, Lancashire, England
mother's name: Lucy Gartside father not identified

 

 

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